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a lot of taxes will go up but taxes will go up on everybody, not injure the guy around the tree that's paying for everything but everyone will have to pay. and then folks will realize the government we are voting for costs us money too. >> that's the thing. if we don't go over the cliff and they don't reach a compromise, what will happen? they can't afford to keep spending like this. won't spending have to go down by virtue after compromise not being reached? spending will go down a little bit because of the sequester and 9 defense spending, what you talked about on the show quite a bit. a big chunk comes from tax increases. little the end of the unemployment benefits of that been going on for a while, the payroll tax holiday and the alternative minimum tax which is going to grab more and more people. you will have less subsidies for lower income people who are unemployed today and higher tax on middle income americans. it's not great. none of us want tax increases but at the end of the day trillion dollars deficits are bad, too. trillion dollars deficits every year as far as the eye c
a lot of taxes will go up but taxes will go up on everybody, not injure the guy around the tree that's paying for everything but everyone will have to pay. and then folks will realize the government we are voting for costs us money too. >> that's the thing. if we don't go over the cliff and they don't reach a compromise, what will happen? they can't afford to keep spending like this. won't spending have to go down by virtue after compromise not being reached? spending will go down a...
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they wouldn't restore tax cuts. combination would be too severe of the spending cuths with all the tax cuts gone. that becomes the enormous fight. you do get up involved in late january or late february with the revenue. it's an enormous fight, amount we raise the debt creeling to amount they cut debt ceiling. a fight that obama should not want to have. it's interesting to me if he doesn't act in the next couple of days with what charles calls a generous deal he gets himself in to really unstable waters, economically. something we have never seen before. then we look at the global waters rattling toward real default, not the january 1 cliff. republicans would be blamed initially but he would be blamed ultimately. >> this argument and is so ethereal with the numbers baptered back and forth they can't grasp it. one component is the farm bill that expires at the end of this lame duck session if it expires and we go to 1949 formula for calculating milk price supports. back in 1949, most cows in the country were milked b
they wouldn't restore tax cuts. combination would be too severe of the spending cuths with all the tax cuts gone. that becomes the enormous fight. you do get up involved in late january or late february with the revenue. it's an enormous fight, amount we raise the debt creeling to amount they cut debt ceiling. a fight that obama should not want to have. it's interesting to me if he doesn't act in the next couple of days with what charles calls a generous deal he gets himself in to really...
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going over the cliff, tax rates go up for everybody and then a vote, a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans. instead of a vote to raise taxes for 1% of americans and it makes much more likely to get republican support. they can make it retroactive to january 1st, fix a lot of things that are going to go haywire if we go past january 1st without a deal, thomas. >> mike, great to see you. thank you, sir. >>> want to bring in the political power panel for this wednesday morning, lynn sweet, keith boykin and alice stewart. great to see all of you here. post-merry christmas to everybody. i want to start by showing the latest gallup information on what americans are feeling right now, gang. about the fears of the fiscal cliff. deal likely at 50%, deal not likely at 48%. and this is gone down continually as we have seen, lynn, over several days, whether more optimism before the christmas holiday and continues to evaporate the closer to the cliff but talking about what the president can do coming back, can it about a small stop gap measure to save people after the 1st? >> it could be and i've alway
going over the cliff, tax rates go up for everybody and then a vote, a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans. instead of a vote to raise taxes for 1% of americans and it makes much more likely to get republican support. they can make it retroactive to january 1st, fix a lot of things that are going to go haywire if we go past january 1st without a deal, thomas. >> mike, great to see you. thank you, sir. >>> want to bring in the political power panel for this wednesday morning,...
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, tax cuts for everyone making under 250, can republicans say no to a tax cut in 2015? >> it will be tough but not tougher than the pr battles he's fighting right now. i think he wants that scenario. i think obama thinks going off the click is a win for him. he can say i am bringing in revenue, i am lowering the deficit. and he can still blame the gop when their tacks go up. i don't think the grass pollen had the ball in this fight. i don't think they gave it up, i don't think they ever had it. it's tough for them to win against a white house like this and a white house press core that's not going to report anything negative against the president. >> there's a ball and the ball is the debt ceiling. all these things, i will get to craig, but have to go through the house. the money negotiations have to go through the house. if the house says no on raising the debt ceiling, they can create a lot of havoc. go ahead, greg. >> you know what? i don't care anymore. >> oh, okay. >> because as a human being in this discussion i've already lost, both options going over the fiscal
, tax cuts for everyone making under 250, can republicans say no to a tax cut in 2015? >> it will be tough but not tougher than the pr battles he's fighting right now. i think he wants that scenario. i think obama thinks going off the click is a win for him. he can say i am bringing in revenue, i am lowering the deficit. and he can still blame the gop when their tacks go up. i don't think the grass pollen had the ball in this fight. i don't think they gave it up, i don't think they ever...
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let's go back to the tax. your paycheck is going down 2%. everyone's taxes go up. it will really have an effect is when people get their first paycheck in january and the christmas bills are due, the average working class family will have their paycheck drop not 2% but closer to 5%. democrats see it as leverage, but it hurts real people for the short-term. >> when you talk about it, absolutely. if we go over the cliff without changing anything, this will be the end of unemployment benefits for more than two million americans. people who cannot wait a couple of months to get the money back and don't have the safety net. this is a very serious situation for some americans. on this show we have a slope and not a cliff. for some it is an immediate pain cliff situation. >> we should differentiate between the things that are really a cliff. unemployment and income taxes and the other things like the spending cuts draw out over a year. the sequester and other things. you wouldn't have to worry about that. those things can be fixed. the democrats don't have a sense of urge
let's go back to the tax. your paycheck is going down 2%. everyone's taxes go up. it will really have an effect is when people get their first paycheck in january and the christmas bills are due, the average working class family will have their paycheck drop not 2% but closer to 5%. democrats see it as leverage, but it hurts real people for the short-term. >> when you talk about it, absolutely. if we go over the cliff without changing anything, this will be the end of unemployment...
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>> well, the thing that will get them piqued is that tax rates. obama is preferring a $250,000 threshold, but in the process of trying to hammer out the deal, it is raised to $400,000 or $500,0 $500,000, and the base is going to be angry about that, and that is offset by satisfaction that some of the entitlement reforms that the president had signed off on earlier such as changing the structure for social security will not likely be in this deal, and obviously, everything remains to be seen, and the estate tax is a big sticking point, because obama wants to see it go up, and the senate republicans will insist that it stay at the current rate. >> thank you, robert costa and sam stein. we will be back in a moment. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> welcome back to hardball. what will a deal look like if there is one? and who is going to wind up giving up more on the tax cuts for wealthy americans? harry reid insists $250,000 is a threshold, but it may not hold. joining me now is josh green of bloomberg business week. josh, for the marke
>> well, the thing that will get them piqued is that tax rates. obama is preferring a $250,000 threshold, but in the process of trying to hammer out the deal, it is raised to $400,000 or $500,0 $500,000, and the base is going to be angry about that, and that is offset by satisfaction that some of the entitlement reforms that the president had signed off on earlier such as changing the structure for social security will not likely be in this deal, and obviously, everything remains to be...
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not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting their paychecks back up. that's what they want to do. >> now, governor, you have had to deal with people of opposing parties. you've had to compromise. you've seen them compromise. that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made, rev, is a very good one. the president did move with entitlements and it did anger a cig n significant portion of his base. but the president agrees that you can't set this nation's economy on a healthy path that cease going to take care of our deficit and make it a managinin bart of gdp. he knows we can't asked the republicans to raise it 1.2, 1.3 trillion in revenue. he's reached out and made cig nif kant concessions and the response to that was nothing. it is pathetic. >> jaret, let me ask you, if we go over the cliff, what ps? is there not an immediate im
not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting their paychecks back up. that's what they want to do. >> now, governor, you have had to deal with people of opposing parties. you've had to compromise. you've seen them compromise. that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made,...
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all the bush tax cuts expire, the payroll tax cuts expire. doctors participating in medicare, see their reimbursements cut by more than 25%. good luck getting a doctor then. more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts are triggered. the economy probably falls back into recession, and merry christmas and happy new year from washington to you, the american people. this basket of problems is what washington calls the fiscal cliff. you've been hearing for months now about the cliff crisis. you've heard a lot about whether or not it will matter, you've heard about the offers and the counteroffers president obama and house speaker john boehner put on the table. if you live in the game area, you're going to be reading about the cliff whether you like it or not. we at starbucks have an opportunity and i believe a responsibility to use our company's scale for good, by sending a respectful and optimistic message to our officials to come together and reach important ground. this week, through december 28th, partners at our washington, d.c., area store
all the bush tax cuts expire, the payroll tax cuts expire. doctors participating in medicare, see their reimbursements cut by more than 25%. good luck getting a doctor then. more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts are triggered. the economy probably falls back into recession, and merry christmas and happy new year from washington to you, the american people. this basket of problems is what washington calls the fiscal cliff. you've been hearing for months now about the cliff crisis. you've...
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i can report we have reached an agreement on all of the tax, the tax, the tax issues. >>reporter: lawmakers are saying to avoid americans getting hammered by new taxes in the new year get this part done, and work out the other issues that are still on the table in the new year. the bottom line, republican senators are being briefed by the lead negotiator at this hour. >> thank you, mike emanuel. >> the late word is there will be no vote in the house of representatives because there is nothing to vote on. so we are tumbling over the fiscal cliff for now. the question after the interview, president obama sitting down with one sunday talk show host yesterday and that host is capping flak if not asking the tough questions on taxes and spending and follow-up >> politics is always messy. people have asked me about the film "lincoln" and --. >> is this your lincoln moment? >> no, i never compare myself to lincoln. and, obviously the magnitude of the issues are quite different from the civil war and slavery. >> how accountable are you for the fact that washington is not gettin
i can report we have reached an agreement on all of the tax, the tax, the tax issues. >>reporter: lawmakers are saying to avoid americans getting hammered by new taxes in the new year get this part done, and work out the other issues that are still on the table in the new year. the bottom line, republican senators are being briefed by the lead negotiator at this hour. >> thank you, mike emanuel. >> the late word is there will be no vote in the house of representatives because...
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then however it becomes no longer extending the bush tax cuts, but the obama tax cuts. president obama is associated with cutting taxes. there is political liability for them as well. the reality is they have to get off of this no tax increase nonsense. i read in the "new york times" the other day, no republican member of congress voted for it since 1990. do you believe that? we had two or three wars since that time? a tragedy at 9/11 and we had hurricane sandy. we had hurricane katrina and despite all of these, they are unwilling to raise them to support and fund our government. what does it say about the dysfunctionality? >> we will have to leave it there. happy holidays to you. joining me now on the phone, congressman gregory meeks. congressman, i just saw you downstairs in the lobby about two or three hours ago and you were waiting on a phone call to determine when you might have to go back to d.c. to hammer out fiscal cliff matters. have you gotten the call yet? >> we are still waiting. >> no word as to when you guys are going back? no sense of urgency? >> i think
then however it becomes no longer extending the bush tax cuts, but the obama tax cuts. president obama is associated with cutting taxes. there is political liability for them as well. the reality is they have to get off of this no tax increase nonsense. i read in the "new york times" the other day, no republican member of congress voted for it since 1990. do you believe that? we had two or three wars since that time? a tragedy at 9/11 and we had hurricane sandy. we had hurricane...
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tax cuts for everyone making under 250. can republicans say no to tax cut in 2013? >> andrea: it will be tough. not tougher than the p.r. battle they are fighting now. i think he wants that scenario, eric. i think obama thinks going off the cliff is a win for him so he can pass the obama tax cut and say look, i'm bringing in revenue. i lowered the deficit. pass his tax cut. a win and he can blame the g.o.p. i would argue i don't think the g.o.p. had the ball on this fight. i don't think they gave it up. i don't think they had it. it's very tough for them to win against the white house like this. and a white house press corps that is not going to report anything negative against the president. >> eric: the ball is a debt ceiling. remember, all the negotiations, tell you, i'll get to greg, they have to go through the house. money negotiations go through the house. if the house says no on raising debt ceiling they can create havoc. go ahead. >> greg: i don't care anymore. >> kimberly: okay. you did last week? >> greg: as a human being in this discussion, i have already
tax cuts for everyone making under 250. can republicans say no to tax cut in 2013? >> andrea: it will be tough. not tougher than the p.r. battle they are fighting now. i think he wants that scenario, eric. i think obama thinks going off the cliff is a win for him so he can pass the obama tax cut and say look, i'm bringing in revenue. i lowered the deficit. pass his tax cut. a win and he can blame the g.o.p. i would argue i don't think the g.o.p. had the ball on this fight. i don't think...
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. >> tax hikes remain at the center of the stand-off. what is the dividing line between those gets those tax breaks extended and those who do not. they're holding out hope for an 11-hour deal. hardly the first time that washington has pushed things to the edge. >> i actually think there's still a chance to get something done. so, you know, these deals usually come together at the last moment. >> why are you cautiously optimistic when it seems everyone else is saying we're going to go over the cliff? >> well, to paraphrase ronald reagan, there's so much manure around here there has to be a pony around here. no one wants tax hikes on 98% of the american people. >>> the president faces a potential default in the coming months unless the debt ceiling is raised again. a mo >> it's somewhat like taking your child hostage and saying to somebody else i'm going to shoot my child if you don't want done. there's no republican leader that wants to default on our debt that i talked to, that should be nonpartisan. >> congressman, not the best choice o
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take the tax issue -- give the president his tax hike on the rich now. fight him on everything else when taxes aren't part of the conversation. fight him on everything else in six weeks when the debt ceiling is hit or eight weeks, 12 weeks, whenever that fight happens, and do that. i do think that mcconnell -- that's where he wants to be. can he get there in the next 24 hours? that's what we don't know. >> tom brokaw? >> well, it seems to me that the middle class is going to have a date for the prom. everybody is talking about protecting the middle class here. so i think this deal will probably get done around the middle class tax cut. it's at what level. $400,000 or $250,000 or some other number. which is going to be critically important. a lot of people don't realize in a large urban and suburban areas of america, $250,000 doesn't make you rich. have you two kids in college at $60,000. if you're a boomer, you may have a dependent parent of some kind. spending another $20,000 or $25,000 on that. you have to have a definition of what is the middle class.
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lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal, it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic notionation over this idealogical divide in america. >> what happens next? how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the meeting today, but i still would say the odds, the people placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. still a little more hope than when we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist raffle, and cornell belcher. the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned, that will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose that up or down vote. >> what you're likely to see is somet
lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal, it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic notionation over this idealogical divide in america. >> what happens next? how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the...
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nobody wants the taxes on the 98% of the american people to go up. i think we can act quickly to take care of that. >> to me it makes like there is no way there will be a deal done unless there 230 tom coles. >> it's funny that you see tom cole saying i want to come back to washington, d.c. tomorrow because i think boehner -- tom said absolutely not. they are this close to the deadline, there is no real idea of what's happening. these are our elected leaders. >> the video clip you may want to play tomorrow is kick the can down the road from republicans and democrats and the house and senate. it's the phrase du jour to that conveys no action. it's a sad state and here we are. >> congressman cole is wrong in saying nobody wants to see middle class taxes go up. nobody wants to see themselves getting blamed. that's the real dynamic. nobody is attached to the taxes in d.c. we'll be back with our l in a bit. now trivia question. the answer, maryland junior senator ben cardin. he spent 20 terms in the house before becoming a senator. that's a good chunk of
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democrats will say they need that much in taxes, too. and because they've already raised rates, they got those middle class tax cuts extended, and the rich ones expired, they'll be open to do hitting through tax reform, which will be easier for republicans to swallow. let's say they do get the one to one match. that will be an $800 billion tax increase for a $1.4 trillion revenue increase in total. so democrats could easily end up when all of this is said and done with more revenue than president obama was asking for a week ago. and it will happen if it happens, because over and over and over and over again, john boehner and the house republicans could not take yes for an answer. they had to say no to this president. so they kept delaying until they were weaker. they pushed negotiations from 2011 where they were very strong, until 2012, right after the president had won re-election, and now they're pushing to to 13, after the fiscal cliff hits and they get blamed. it is an odd way to negotiate. to get one republican view on what will com
democrats will say they need that much in taxes, too. and because they've already raised rates, they got those middle class tax cuts extended, and the rich ones expired, they'll be open to do hitting through tax reform, which will be easier for republicans to swallow. let's say they do get the one to one match. that will be an $800 billion tax increase for a $1.4 trillion revenue increase in total. so democrats could easily end up when all of this is said and done with more revenue than...
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adam: tax it. >> tax it. adam: sound like t scene in casablanca where the inspector says, i'm shock, shocked, to find out about gambling in this establishment. and ear here is your winning. >> it is hypocritical. adam: what do you think happens. >> at the end of the day supreme court will decide this. if the federal government wants to intervene my guess it goes to the supreme court and they have to decide under the constitutionan you allow something in nevada and not allow it in new jersey if the people in new jersey voted for it? basically there was a referendum in new jersey and that was approved by two to one where the people said, yes we want sports betting. so. adam: they allow some things in nevada not appropriate for family hour that i don't think people in new jersey want but we won't go there. last word on this this won't happen anytime soon. how many years out are we talking? >> i think you're probably right altugh it is possible. monmouth park is talking about getting started and waiting to see wh
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lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to an agreement, it falls apart because they have a fundamentally different idea on the issues. they have this divide in america, randy. >> so what happens next? how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than what we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> randy. >> jessica, thank you, more now on the raw politics, good to see you both. cornell, let me start with you here, the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned that could happen in the senate. we could lose the up or down vote. >> you are going to see something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention to the tone
lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to an agreement, it falls apart because they have a fundamentally different idea on the issues. they have this divide in america, randy. >> so what happens next? how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets...
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this tax deal would also create a perm naanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. the president made it clear what his top priority is in any deal. >> preventing that tax hike has been my top priority. because the last thing folks like the folks up here on the stage can afford right now is to pay an extra $2,000 in taxes next year. middle class families can't afford it. businesses can't afford it. our economy can't afford it. >> just an hour later, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell signalled his agreement with the president. >> so i agree, let's pass the tax relief portion now. let's take what's been agreed to and get moving. we all want to protect tax pairs and we can get it done now. >> however, despite what sounds like good news, there will be no vote in the house tonight even in the house reaches a deal. in fact, the senate has adjourned until tomorrow. >> joining me now when we talk a couple of hours ago, there wouldn't be a vote on either side. but maybe something from the senate tonight? quite possibly. aparentally, th
this tax deal would also create a perm naanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. the president made it clear what his top priority is in any deal. >> preventing that tax hike has been my top priority. because the last thing folks like the folks up here on the stage can afford right now is to pay an extra $2,000 in taxes next year. middle class families can't afford it. businesses can't afford it. our economy can't afford it....
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everybody's taxes would go up. you won't feel that immediately with most of these things, but with unemployment insurance and others, you will. there will be a grass roots feeling among americans. if you look at the polls, republicans will get blamed. they themselves are wary of this. that's why democrats would politically feel inclined to go over the cliff. there will be so much on republicans, this might be the only way they agree to raise taxes. >> not to mention in the next senate too. 55 democrats and four seats in the house. >> quickly for both of you, we covered this today. i'm surprised by the lack of urgency. does that surprise you as well? >> this is not the debt ceiling. say we are working through the weekends and training mcconnell and biden on the phone and the president involved. really to take christmas off facing the fiscal cliff in a week shows how little optimism there is. >> i completely agree. we spent many late nights in the capital and is it doesn't seem like that is going to happen. >> amazin
everybody's taxes would go up. you won't feel that immediately with most of these things, but with unemployment insurance and others, you will. there will be a grass roots feeling among americans. if you look at the polls, republicans will get blamed. they themselves are wary of this. that's why democrats would politically feel inclined to go over the cliff. there will be so much on republicans, this might be the only way they agree to raise taxes. >> not to mention in the next senate...
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at that point republicans can support a deal without voting for a tax increase, in fact, because tax rates have automatically reset higher, they can say now we're voting for a big tax cut for the broad middle class. >> is that what's going to ensure that speaker boehner is not in danger is it. >> right. i mean, that's where someone earlier said, you know, he's got to figure out whether he's for the country or for his own job. in many ways he's preserving his own job by not pushing a vote by which the only way that vote would get over the legislative would be with a majority of democrats. he doesn't want to do that to preserve his job. once we go over the cliff, we can possibly do more of a bungee jump if we reverse the damage quickly. in that vote republicans don't have to vote for a tax increase, which to me is absolutely ridiculous in terms of serving the economy and the country, but i guess the politics makes sense to some of these guys. >>> jared bernstein, thank you. the storm is coming. look at that storm, the symptom is coming behind you. >> you weren't talking about a fiscal
at that point republicans can support a deal without voting for a tax increase, in fact, because tax rates have automatically reset higher, they can say now we're voting for a big tax cut for the broad middle class. >> is that what's going to ensure that speaker boehner is not in danger is it. >> right. i mean, that's where someone earlier said, you know, he's got to figure out whether he's for the country or for his own job. in many ways he's preserving his own job by not pushing a...
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talks cooled over the holidays over how to avoid the massive tax hikes. >> taxes are going to go up no matter what. they go up a lot more and that is where the political hit comes. >> house republicans point the finger at the other chamber saying the senate must act on a bill to avoid the fiscal cliff. the gop is blamed for the holdup. no further legislation can move unless republicans drop their knee-jerk obstruction. the mayfield gradual at first, except on wall street. >> the reaction of the financial markets and the stock markets. you could see something quick. >> a top ceo is hoping to jolts them into action. >> i am maintaining my optimism that we will see the republicans and administration come together and do what is right for the country. >> starbucks its in its message that our players in washington and take me out an ad featuring a quotation from lincoln. will it work? we will see. >> hallie jackson, thank you. >> kim dacey is live on what you need to know. >> about a dozen state laws will go into effect next tuesday. we have highlighted just a few. with any new year comes n
talks cooled over the holidays over how to avoid the massive tax hikes. >> taxes are going to go up no matter what. they go up a lot more and that is where the political hit comes. >> house republicans point the finger at the other chamber saying the senate must act on a bill to avoid the fiscal cliff. the gop is blamed for the holdup. no further legislation can move unless republicans drop their knee-jerk obstruction. the mayfield gradual at first, except on wall street. >>...
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people are not proposing making the taxes like them. john boehner could not even pass the tax proposal he passed over there. he said no, can't do that. didn't he bring it up for a vote? >> tonight, speaker boehner's office put out this statement. >> joining me now are our guests. clearly the positioning game continues. harry reid saying we did our job months ago. do you think we til would posturing stage at the end of that white house meeting tomorrow? >> in your introduction you made the fundamental point here which is that this agreement before the end of the year, simply cannot go forward unless john by nor is willing to let it do so with majority democrats in the house. if we go over the curve as you put it, they can vote for a large tax decrease becaused off of the new rates that would be reset. they can say we votes to cut taxes for 98% of households. but it is the only scenario that i cap see out there in the near term. >> the building that read has passed. let's lis ep to what mitch mcconnell said about that? >> the senate bill
people are not proposing making the taxes like them. john boehner could not even pass the tax proposal he passed over there. he said no, can't do that. didn't he bring it up for a vote? >> tonight, speaker boehner's office put out this statement. >> joining me now are our guests. clearly the positioning game continues. harry reid saying we did our job months ago. do you think we til would posturing stage at the end of that white house meeting tomorrow? >> in your introduction...
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, not a rise in taxes? >> chuck schumer brought up a good point. a key moment of these entire negotiations came on wednesday night when president obama calls mitch mcconnell, bring the republican leader in the process. what happens now is very important. as sam said, they'll be negotiating today and over the weekend in the senate. and if this $250,000 comes to the floor, if a few republicans attach themselves to what reid and obama agree to, then that means when it pose gophers to the house it has a much better chance of attracting republican support. if mitch mcconnell aligns republicans and tells everyone to oppose it in the senate republican conference, the chances of it succeeding in the house are pretty low. >> sam, is this the end of the road for grover norquist and his pledge? >> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other
, not a rise in taxes? >> chuck schumer brought up a good point. a key moment of these entire negotiations came on wednesday night when president obama calls mitch mcconnell, bring the republican leader in the process. what happens now is very important. as sam said, they'll be negotiating today and over the weekend in the senate. and if this $250,000 comes to the floor, if a few republicans attach themselves to what reid and obama agree to, then that means when it pose gophers to the...
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, no tax increases people below, but taxes for people above. >> tax rate hikes are a partisan solution driven by the president, but he is going to get tax rate hikes. to my republican colleagues, if we can protect 99% of the american public from a tax hike, that is not a tax increase in my book. >> so close and yet still so far. democrat senator chuck schumer and republican senator lindsey grap striking similar notes on taxes, but time is running out. there's still no real deal in sight. joining me now is congresswoman karen bass, democrat from california. congresswoman, it's great to have you here, and as we're hearing about what's taking place in washington or what was taking place before everybody closed up shop to go home for the holidays, we're hearing that more republicans are calling for compromise on the tax issue. however, nearly 200 house republicans appeared to set back speaker boehner's plan b. at this point is there hope that even a small deal will get done before the new year? >> well, i certainly hope there is, but, you know, we left -- when you said some republicans are
, no tax increases people below, but taxes for people above. >> tax rate hikes are a partisan solution driven by the president, but he is going to get tax rate hikes. to my republican colleagues, if we can protect 99% of the american public from a tax hike, that is not a tax increase in my book. >> so close and yet still so far. democrat senator chuck schumer and republican senator lindsey grap striking similar notes on taxes, but time is running out. there's still no real deal in...
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and if you reach the level of taxes is too high. so the strategy of the government should be going forward, again, to cap public spending, reduce taxes, to create a favorable environment for corporate. and let me say that france has a lot of advantages. nice infrastructure, good infrastructure, demography, people with skills, a good level of education. we can take advantage of that, even compared with our peers so let's do everything we can to -- the benefit of these positive advantages and not be -- not present people to invest in france because they might be afraid of a lack of visibility on the taxpayers or too high taxes. >> but do you think it's sending the right signal to investors when it's threatening to nationalize a factory? >> no, certainly not. these are not the right ones and clearly what an investor needs is, again, confident. immediately going forward, illustrate will not suffer from taxes or a potential threat. the message should be positive for investors, not just french one, but also we have a strategy to reduce st
and if you reach the level of taxes is too high. so the strategy of the government should be going forward, again, to cap public spending, reduce taxes, to create a favorable environment for corporate. and let me say that france has a lot of advantages. nice infrastructure, good infrastructure, demography, people with skills, a good level of education. we can take advantage of that, even compared with our peers so let's do everything we can to -- the benefit of these positive advantages and not...
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end of the year. >> come january we're going to hit economic hangover when taxes are going to go up and everyone and ebe miserable. >> reporter: analysts say sales ana been strong this holiday season partly because many retailers started cutting prices ngrly. that meant bargains for christmas shoppers but, jeff, may mean lower profits for the jefes. >> glor: john blackstone, thank rou. john mentioned the fiscal cliff. tinight we've learned democrats emocraw moving ahead on their hei plan to avoid it now that talks have broken down with john boehner. white house and congressional leaders have until january 1 to lork out a budget deal. resident obama is in hawaii on udget dn. nancy cordes is there as well. nancy, good evening. nancy, goor: jeff, this would : sentially be a last-ditch effort to avert the fiscal ially be sources tell us that aides to the president have been in talks preliminary talks, with aides to senate majority leader harry elf who himself was here in hawaii this weekend for the funeral of senator daniel inouye. eid is now working, we're told, on a smaller package th
end of the year. >> come january we're going to hit economic hangover when taxes are going to go up and everyone and ebe miserable. >> reporter: analysts say sales ana been strong this holiday season partly because many retailers started cutting prices ngrly. that meant bargains for christmas shoppers but, jeff, may mean lower profits for the jefes. >> glor: john blackstone, thank rou. john mentioned the fiscal cliff. tinight we've learned democrats emocraw moving ahead on...
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the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24
the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us...
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it is funded by payroll taxes. there's a 12.4% tax on wages up to about $110,000. you make more than that then any money you make over that is not taxed for social security. it is divided equally between your employer and the worker. for the past two years, the workers share has been reduced. that has saved, by the way, if you are an average worker that is $1,000 tax cut. host: we can see in this pie chart where that money comes from. payroll taxes making nearly 83% and interest and taxation of benefits. we see the payouts. benefits, 90% of the money spent goes to benefits and administrative expenses and retirement. what are some of the other numbers we're seeing? guest: the interest is from the trust fund. so when the last time social security in 1983 they put in a system that generated more money in tax revenue than were being paid out in benefits. a trust fund was built up. so when social security had that additional money, the treasury holds it. they invest it in treasury bonds and those bonds earn interest. that is where that big portion of your income for the
it is funded by payroll taxes. there's a 12.4% tax on wages up to about $110,000. you make more than that then any money you make over that is not taxed for social security. it is divided equally between your employer and the worker. for the past two years, the workers share has been reduced. that has saved, by the way, if you are an average worker that is $1,000 tax cut. host: we can see in this pie chart where that money comes from. payroll taxes making nearly 83% and interest and taxation of...
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. >> taxes are going to go up no matter what. they could go up a lot more, and that is where the political hit comes. >> house republicans point the finger at the other chamber, saying the senate must act on a bill to avoid the fiscal cliff. a spokesman for harry reid some are blaming the gop for the holdup. no further legislation can move unless republicans drop their knee-jerk obstructionism. if the country falls off the fiscal cliff, it may feel gradual at first, except on wall street. >> the reaction from the financial markets and the stock markets -- you could see something quick. >> a top ceo is hoping to jolt them into action. he wants employees to write " come together" on the coffee cups. >> i am maintaining my optimism that we will see the republicans and administration come together and do what is right for the country. >> starbucks has a message for the players in washington and is taking out an ad in "the washington post" featuring a quote from lincoln. will it work? we will see. hallie jackson, wbal-tv 11 news. >> 6
. >> taxes are going to go up no matter what. they could go up a lot more, and that is where the political hit comes. >> house republicans point the finger at the other chamber, saying the senate must act on a bill to avoid the fiscal cliff. a spokesman for harry reid some are blaming the gop for the holdup. no further legislation can move unless republicans drop their knee-jerk obstructionism. if the country falls off the fiscal cliff, it may feel gradual at first, except on wall...
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leaders from capitol hill today, hoping to avoid the fiscal cliff, combination of spending cuts and tax hikes with will go into effect unless lawmakers can broker a deal before the end of the year. will meet with congressional white house. it may be too late for a deal. there are just four days left before the fiscal cliff deadline. jive to be very honest mr. president, -- >> i have to be very honest mr. president, i don't know time-wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: senate majority leader harry reid]vtkÑ lashed ot at speaker boehner accusing him of running a tar forship. >> john boehner seems to -- >> reporter: republican leaders blame democrats for the standoff and say there are limits to a compromise. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank cheque or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> reporter: president obama flew home early from his hawaii vacation yesterday. speaker boehner call the house back into town for an unusual sunday session. members of congress understa
leaders from capitol hill today, hoping to avoid the fiscal cliff, combination of spending cuts and tax hikes with will go into effect unless lawmakers can broker a deal before the end of the year. will meet with congressional white house. it may be too late for a deal. there are just four days left before the fiscal cliff deadline. jive to be very honest mr. president, -- >> i have to be very honest mr. president, i don't know time-wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: senate...
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reach an agreement in the short time we have left, we'll need cooperation on both sides to prevent taxes going up tomorrow for every family in america. i repeat, there's still some issues that need to be resolved before we can bring legislation to the floor. >> and the question is, when they bring that legislation to the floor, it is expected to pass in the senate side. what's going to happen over here on the house of representatives side of the capitol is the big question. will speaker boehner move it to the floor? if so, will it pass with democratic and republican votes? or will republicans block the measure? that will be the key drama for later this afternoon or later this evening or even tomorrow. no indications as of just yet as when the votes will actually happen, scott. >> aman, happy new year to you. see you on the other side. we are trading today's mark with josh and brian kelly. wise, we are probably going to get something done over the next 48 hours. the size is the question. what's the market going to look look on the other side of the holiday? >> well, to me that's dependent
reach an agreement in the short time we have left, we'll need cooperation on both sides to prevent taxes going up tomorrow for every family in america. i repeat, there's still some issues that need to be resolved before we can bring legislation to the floor. >> and the question is, when they bring that legislation to the floor, it is expected to pass in the senate side. what's going to happen over here on the house of representatives side of the capitol is the big question. will speaker...
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and the alternative minimum tax. explain how that is going to affect people. >> the alternative minimum tax has a threshold that we have been adjusting over time for inflation. if they don't do something about that by january 1 or something about that retroactively, then many middle-income americans will pay 26 to 28% of their income in taxes. those are the kines of taxes that someone who makes $500,000 a year pay, in terms of average tax. there will be a whopping inexrees in tax burdens. they are going to have that retroactively into 2011 on their income tax return and going forward. tell wreak chaos. the president being persistent that it's my way or the highway, taxes on folks over $250,000 or nothing has put a pistol to the head of the middle class. it has threatened them with financial extortion if he doesn't get his way to satisfy the populist wing of the democratic party. >> all right. estate and gift taxes? >> they're going up. the threshold in the bush years on the estate tax went up from $1 million to about
and the alternative minimum tax. explain how that is going to affect people. >> the alternative minimum tax has a threshold that we have been adjusting over time for inflation. if they don't do something about that by january 1 or something about that retroactively, then many middle-income americans will pay 26 to 28% of their income in taxes. those are the kines of taxes that someone who makes $500,000 a year pay, in terms of average tax. there will be a whopping inexrees in tax burdens....
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now the lapse of the tax cuts would mean that the top tax rate would revert back to 39.6 from the clinton administration from 35% now but taxes would also go up for lower income earners. the maximum low rate would revert back to 15% from 10% now. the for investors, capital gains rates would revert to 20% from 15% now. depending on the analysis, the average family would pay 2,000 to 4 thou more in taxes next year. back to you guys. tracy: peter we were talking about the protocol. you sent a great little ted it about. you have to explain it to the viewers. the house makes these rules, three day rule everyone gets opportunity to read but the house has the opportunity to throw them out of the window. >> that's right. the house can waive its rules so they can waive the three-day rule, but, also the three days isn't 72 hours now. it is like, it's three calendar days. if they post it one minute before midnight on one day, then have it for 24 hours for day two, they can post it for one men on day three, that apparently now counts as three-day rule. so 24 hours and two minutes. tracy: it's a joke.
now the lapse of the tax cuts would mean that the top tax rate would revert back to 39.6 from the clinton administration from 35% now but taxes would also go up for lower income earners. the maximum low rate would revert back to 15% from 10% now. the for investors, capital gains rates would revert to 20% from 15% now. depending on the analysis, the average family would pay 2,000 to 4 thou more in taxes next year. back to you guys. tracy: peter we were talking about the protocol. you sent a...
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tax on bottle water. one of the highest sales tax in the united states. increase in cigarette tax fell short of projected revenue because the tobacco store owners hoarded up the tax stamp before the increase went in effect. in chicago, mike tobin, fox news. >> doug: thank you, mike. how does one unapologize? that is later in grapevine. up next, look at politics behind russia move to ban american adoptions of russian orphans. . now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. smoke? nah, i'm good. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. >> doug: checking international news now. iran kicked off
tax on bottle water. one of the highest sales tax in the united states. increase in cigarette tax fell short of projected revenue because the tobacco store owners hoarded up the tax stamp before the increase went in effect. in chicago, mike tobin, fox news. >> doug: thank you, mike. how does one unapologize? that is later in grapevine. up next, look at politics behind russia move to ban american adoptions of russian orphans. . now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the...
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details on a brand-new sales tax. and senator libbedy graham has been an outspoken critic of president barack obama for years. but what is he saying today? >> if the president doesn't deal with this, he is a lousy commander in chief. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you realldon't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it findone, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all youeed is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> you are not only going to cut your way to prosperity. >> we have not seen the leade
details on a brand-new sales tax. and senator libbedy graham has been an outspoken critic of president barack obama for years. but what is he saying today? >> if the president doesn't deal with this, he is a lousy commander in chief. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. time for...
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you have to do something on taxes. really, plan b was about tax cuts, not spending. it seems to me the only with the republican party will get major spending cuts passed is it they also agreed to new revenue. otherwise, the president cannot be out there continually only cutting spending while leaving all of the bush-ever tax cuts in place. host: let me share with you what emily etherege writes. she says it is almost certain that social security will be part of the deal. continued murkiness has groups concerned. democrats are critical of the president putting this issue on the table. republicans say it has to be. guest: despite the conversations about the grand bargain, it was never going to happen, there had not been enough preparation. one of my predictions from my column in 2012 was predictions for next year. what i am telling everybody is we are not going to get a big tax reform package next year because it takes two years to enact. without that, we will not get mandatory spending changes. that means the grand bargain is two years off. it cannot be part of the fis
you have to do something on taxes. really, plan b was about tax cuts, not spending. it seems to me the only with the republican party will get major spending cuts passed is it they also agreed to new revenue. otherwise, the president cannot be out there continually only cutting spending while leaving all of the bush-ever tax cuts in place. host: let me share with you what emily etherege writes. she says it is almost certain that social security will be part of the deal. continued murkiness has...
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from a tax increase. it would go back to clinton era rates for capital gains dividends under $450,000 per year would save the current rate. income amounts above that, we are talking about a 20% tax. taxes would increase there. the alternative minimum tax would be couch. it sounds tens of millions of middle-class americans, and this would be a permanent exemption for those people. as for the estate tax, it would go to 40%. there would be a one-year extension of long-term unemployment benefits. adam: what is the sticking point? it seems to me that the democrats felt they wanted, even a delay on the spending cuts. reporter: they did, and that's the problem. it is the delay on the spending cuts democrats wanted to delay the automatic spending cuts for the first few months. known as the sequester. $94 billion worth over the next year. republicans wanted to pay for that by spending cuts elsewhere. so that's something that they are still arguing out right now. republicans say that we have this. adam: will there
from a tax increase. it would go back to clinton era rates for capital gains dividends under $450,000 per year would save the current rate. income amounts above that, we are talking about a 20% tax. taxes would increase there. the alternative minimum tax would be couch. it sounds tens of millions of middle-class americans, and this would be a permanent exemption for those people. as for the estate tax, it would go to 40%. there would be a one-year extension of long-term unemployment benefits....
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and tax reform is very difficult. >> why can't we get sunsetting on spending, and no sunsetting on tax cuts. we shouldn't be, that's what we should be sunsetting are the spending bills. we should be talking about wind energy that needs to be sunsetted, soon. you bring up the side of the cliff that no one talks about. the sequester, the automatic spending reduction, i don't think it would be a bad thing if washington took the sequester and showed that they could cut spending. >> because we have a never budget balancing act going on with the journalist pointed out the secret gang of six meetings, that's budgeting by, secret gang of 12 meetings. and-- >> quickly that's what we use today call blue smoke and mirrors in washington and that's why people are upset at washington. don't trust them. david: good to see you. well, the numbers are in and you were not shopping as much as last year, apparently. holiday retail sales were basically unchanged from last year and sandy, of course, and the connecticut shooting got some blame, but what about no jobs and no money? coming up, the opening bell,
and tax reform is very difficult. >> why can't we get sunsetting on spending, and no sunsetting on tax cuts. we shouldn't be, that's what we should be sunsetting are the spending bills. we should be talking about wind energy that needs to be sunsetted, soon. you bring up the side of the cliff that no one talks about. the sequester, the automatic spending reduction, i don't think it would be a bad thing if washington took the sequester and showed that they could cut spending. >>...
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is that enough to offset what could be higher taxes? >> many are concerned with taxes. a high percentage of them. i would say the fear of the unknown is probably the biggest challenge. for a franchisee, there is tremendous opportunity out there. taxes or obamacare will not influence negatively those who will do a great job opening their own business. lori: because of the political climate, you do see shifts in the types of franchises that are the most profitable. child care, senior citizen care, moving companies -- why is that? >> it will absolutely be the year of that. there are lower startup costs. they are looking at businesses that will be able to make the most money. obviously, being passionate about it is critical. at the end of the day, you will make more dollars with a service brand than anything else. lori: explain that to me in more detail why the restaurant industry is taking a back seat? >> we did not say it is taking a backseat, more savvy entrepreneurs are getting into the market now. financially, you will take a lower net percentage typically been on a se
is that enough to offset what could be higher taxes? >> many are concerned with taxes. a high percentage of them. i would say the fear of the unknown is probably the biggest challenge. for a franchisee, there is tremendous opportunity out there. taxes or obamacare will not influence negatively those who will do a great job opening their own business. lori: because of the political climate, you do see shifts in the types of franchises that are the most profitable. child care, senior...
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and if you don't do that, the taxes are going to go. gerri: all right, we are going to take a break right now. but we will break into programming the minute that anybody goes to the senate if we hear from the vice president. rich edson is covering all this for us on capitol hill. the fox business team is in place here on sixth avenue. two hours left from the fiscal cliff. the revelers are ready to party, and we are here for you all night. back to the programming totion e that injunction against the contraceptive mandate? >> it is a surprisingri, pringlehey lt be >> a christian-based company, and they think that that is part of their credo, and 10mandment l commandments, the golden rule. the living hearing purchase pilt will kill babies. we are not going to do it. but the circuit court, the appeals court said we are going to hold up that ruling against it. in this particular case, the court says you are right that your religious exercise is something limited. you can still were shut and you say to that you are limited wit. rtgard to obam
and if you don't do that, the taxes are going to go. gerri: all right, we are going to take a break right now. but we will break into programming the minute that anybody goes to the senate if we hear from the vice president. rich edson is covering all this for us on capitol hill. the fox business team is in place here on sixth avenue. two hours left from the fiscal cliff. the revelers are ready to party, and we are here for you all night. back to the programming totion e that injunction against...
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, they will have a tax cut. i think people have been thinking all along that really if push comes to shove, we'll do it in the new year and that seems to be what's developing. >> it creates an interesting dynamic, you'd have a new congress sworn in on january 3rd and ordinarily everyone goes home, get your picture taken, that's it. you're essentially swearing in a new congress and moving to the floor. that's something we haven't seen in quite a while, i'd say in the modern era. >> one of the odd things on the first day is elect a speaker. the majority party puts up -- this time it would be john boehner. the minority puts up their chosen leader, this time nancy pelosi. it's usually pro forma, but this time it has a real weight to it, because one of the reasons we're in this situation right now is because we're waiting for john boehner to be reelected to speaker of the house before they make a move, because only if 16 or 17 republicans don't vote for the guy, he could lose. they just want to wait. >> that's, i thi
, they will have a tax cut. i think people have been thinking all along that really if push comes to shove, we'll do it in the new year and that seems to be what's developing. >> it creates an interesting dynamic, you'd have a new congress sworn in on january 3rd and ordinarily everyone goes home, get your picture taken, that's it. you're essentially swearing in a new congress and moving to the floor. that's something we haven't seen in quite a while, i'd say in the modern era. >>...
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cuts in $41 in taxes. recognizing there will be trouble attracting support for the bill, vice president joe biden returned to capitol hill again today to encourage house democrats to support the compromise he negotiated. after the meeting, the house democratic leaders pushed for up-and-down vote on the package noting it's after the fiscal cliff deadline. >> taxes will go up on everybody in america if we don't act. those who are relying on unemployment insurance, million reconciliation relying up on unemployment insurance to support themselves and their families. if we don't act, we will be at risk. >> the leader emphasizeed bipartisan support up until now. >> a bill passed in the united states senate 89-8. tell me when you have had that on a measure as controversial as this. >> house republicans pushed for quick package arguing it's too late for amendments. >> too late in the game. a point in the deal where it's done, and we keep trying to tinker with it to make it perfect. >> the leadership team were not
cuts in $41 in taxes. recognizing there will be trouble attracting support for the bill, vice president joe biden returned to capitol hill again today to encourage house democrats to support the compromise he negotiated. after the meeting, the house democratic leaders pushed for up-and-down vote on the package noting it's after the fiscal cliff deadline. >> taxes will go up on everybody in america if we don't act. those who are relying on unemployment insurance, million reconciliation...
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but the danger for them is that these stopped being the bush tax cuts and become the obama tax cuts, right? i think that's what conservatives and republicans should be most worried about from a long-term political perspective right now. i mean, in a sense, they have sort of -- they have won a particular policy battle in the sense that most of the bush tax cuts, both parties believe should be extended. right? we're talking about 97%, 98% of the bush tax cuts. you could say that's a policy win for republicans, but if those tax cuts ended up getting branded as obama's tax cuts that he passed after we went over the fiscal cliff, it then loses whatever upside there was for republicans, except, and we have to mention this, for republicans vulnerable to primary challenges, there's obviously a lot of anxiety about being, you know, the first republican in 20 years to vote for a tax increase. i think that's the big fear, that it's been so long. republicans haven't cast this kind of vote. you don't want to be the first one to do it. >> yeah, and charles, we're told the democrats may be waiting
but the danger for them is that these stopped being the bush tax cuts and become the obama tax cuts, right? i think that's what conservatives and republicans should be most worried about from a long-term political perspective right now. i mean, in a sense, they have sort of -- they have won a particular policy battle in the sense that most of the bush tax cuts, both parties believe should be extended. right? we're talking about 97%, 98% of the bush tax cuts. you could say that's a policy win...
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he said the 1 requirement i have for any deal is hiking tax rates. the reason that boehner was not able to do plan b was because it involved breaching the principle, which he did openly and said he was ready to do it. there were conservatives who would not do it. that is not a figure of the party that will be extremely hard to reconcile. if you can not, how you get a deal done before january 1? >> that is essentially the problem the president faced with boehner two years ago. last year. can he deliver? how can you negotiate with someone who cannot deliver on his side? >> you go to people for support, at least three of whom have lost their committee assignments. how can you expect them to come over to your way of thinking? >> they were crowing when john boehner went down, taking some delight, but that was pre- cleared by the leadership. the leadership was with him. this is not a question of -- quite bluntly, leaving and losing their virginity on the issue of tax cuts. it is an important thing for these republicans who have not voted. no republican in
he said the 1 requirement i have for any deal is hiking tax rates. the reason that boehner was not able to do plan b was because it involved breaching the principle, which he did openly and said he was ready to do it. there were conservatives who would not do it. that is not a figure of the party that will be extremely hard to reconcile. if you can not, how you get a deal done before january 1? >> that is essentially the problem the president faced with boehner two years ago. last year....
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programs, and thirdly, they want to p protect the wealthiest estates from any changes of the estate tax because they will have to give something on the rates, and they want to push the threathold of the rate increase as high as they could and go back to the $400,000 that they were offered from the president before. >> right. >> and all of that is absolutely true, and also in addition, what we are looking at of course is the poll numbers. when you talked, i thought it was brilliant that you said that we are the cop tes tantntestant the reality when you look at the republican actions in particular, and the republican actions are polling 20% approval and the president is polling 50% approval, but the 20% approval is about the action on the cliff and not how they play in their individual districts. so when you travel around the country, and i have been to e tea party country in arizona, et cetera, there is a huge incentive for some of the more junior members of congress to stand their ground. it doesn't have to do with the fiscal math of the country, but it has to do with the electoral math
programs, and thirdly, they want to p protect the wealthiest estates from any changes of the estate tax because they will have to give something on the rates, and they want to push the threathold of the rate increase as high as they could and go back to the $400,000 that they were offered from the president before. >> right. >> and all of that is absolutely true, and also in addition, what we are looking at of course is the poll numbers. when you talked, i thought it was brilliant...